Saturday, June 27, 2009

So many good conversations...

Yes its late, and yes I need to go to bed :)
BUT...I had to get some of these thoughts out quickly.
I thought I would give some examples of all the wonderful conversations I got to engage with today.

This morning it began with the realization that life is always so much better when you can play hip-hop first thing in the morning :) Then to discover through conversation the importance of being present in relationships with people and that no matter what happens relationships with other humans are inevitable and a necessary part of being human.

It moved on to my co-worker telling me that I am very intense sometimes when I get into discussions with her and that is scares her :) Very helpful insight, I am working on that.

From there it moved on to the death of Micheal Jackson and why this event has left many individuals feeling confused and perplexed. Micheal Jackson as portrayed by the media was quite messed up. But none-the less he made some amazing music which is damn fun to dance too! And the amount of people that are grieving his death is amazing.... I am not sure in a good way or a bad, but amazing none the less.

Then it moved on from that to the idea of how differently we would treat the world and creation is we actually believed that animals and plants had souls. This would not entail that they could not be consumed for nourishment purposes but it does entail a certain amount of respect and dignity. It would be the Christian nerrative of the West that has us convinced that Humans are the rulers of it all and therefore we must conquer and own and rule this earth that is 'ours'. But what if we were put on equal playing fields with the plants and animals? What if we legitimately thought that they were part of this greater thing called the universe and somehow we are all connected? I suppose in my vision I would hope that this dissuades individuals from hoarding and owning something and putting monetary value on things....oh how we have objectified everything.

From there it moved to my room-mate Jennie telling me that she is pretty sure that I am a "T (thinker) opposed to an "F" (feeler). This is in relation to the Myers Briggs personality test, and so I took it again and was startled by the results...I was an ENTP the visionary. Now the great debate becomes whether Kim is a T or an F. I have had a variety of responses and it has been wonderful. Some people say absolutely an F!! Some people say absolutely a T. But for argumentative purposes in this blog I would like to focus on my processing of why I may be a T (and in the next blog I will refute this and explain why I am an F). I enjoy a good debate there is no question about that (a definite ENTP characteristic). I also am uncomfortable with people who let their emotions dictate everything they do, or individuals who can't seem to snap out of what they are feeling in that moment. I realize I have moments like this as well, but over the past little while I am realizing that I am pretty steady emotionally and I actually have the ability to put my emotions to the side when need be and have little empathy for people who can not. I also value more than anything honesty and telling it like it is. SO.....??? Who knows? I suppose part of the problem is that I have been socialized to be feeling because I am female, and at the same time I recognize that it takes me a long time to actually figure out how I am feeling. And it takes tremendous energy to get through all the layers of intellectualism before I can out-right say this is how I am feeling and this is why what you are doing is bothering me....??? Strange. Feedback is essential so please pour our your thoughts on this matter I would love to know!

The next thing that came up is the topic of love and how flippantly people say "I love you". To me these words can not have any impact unless they are followed by some serious kick ass action. I suppose I would rather show the person than say the words, because words are meaningless unless there is meaning to be had behind the words. And what gives something meaning? Well....that is the question :) In many ways the only way to assess meaning in our finite way is to attribute experience to those words. I for example have tremendous difficulty with the name God. Why do I have trouble with it? Because of my experience with Christianity and the church and the use of that name. In the same way the words "I love you" have almost lost their meaning in this society, time and culture. Some customers would say this to me as I hand them their double espresso first thing in the morning because that is all they need in that moment. So.... in some ways it would seem that we as a society have objectified the words "I love you". I am now in the process of figuring out how I can subjectify these words once again.

From here it moved on to parents and relationships with them. Parents are hard at this age because they are no longer depended upon for the survival of the subject the child. At the same time, it is difficult for me to say that my parents are my friends. We are not equal, at least in some way I am not treated as an equal. It is a grey area for sure. How are you suppose to be in relation to someone who is not quite your friend, yet acts like your friend yet still expects that you treat them as a parent which means respect and....well what does that mean? (Are they therefore an acquaintance?) That is the problem the boundaries are no longer clear. I can have debates with them, but I can't be as critical as I am with my friends. In turn I hold back parts of myself that I would otherwise unleash and therefore do they really get to know the Kim that I am now? What about them to me? Do I really know them?

This moved on to how one actually knows when it is a good time to visit the emergency at the hospital. The public is apparently very ill-educated about when they should visit emergency and when they should visit their general practitioner. I being an ill-educated one asked to become educated. Here is the golden rule IF IT IS AN EMERGENCY GO TO EMERGENCY. Well what defines emergency? If it can't wait, or if you are in so much pain that you are not functioning. Or if you have lost limbs or consciousness :) Otherwise go visit your local walk in clinic, because things like warts are just not an emergency.

Sigh...this is why I needed to blog. I had so many good conversations today and I just simply had to write about them! I hope you all have fun figuring out which ones you were apart of :)

1 comment:

Larisa Kardash said...

It's wicked awesome that you had so many wonderful conversations yesterday Kim! Great to hear about it...thanks for sharing :)

About the uncertainty about you being either ENTP or ENFP - here's my opinion...its a mixture!! :) Always where I'll stand...we are not 100% soley one or the other, we are all complex unique individuals - there's some of each in you! I say 60/40 thinker/feeler :)
possibly 65/35...you know...depends on the day! :) haha...
later gater.